Is Lapras a real deck again?

Hi everyone!

This weekend will be the first one to feature tournaments with the brand new Forbidden Light expansion. Unfortunately, neither me nor any other Limitless player will be attending the Special Championship in Tours, and our next tournament will probably be the Sheffield Regional Championship in exactly a month. This means I’ve been taking it a lot more slowly than usual when it comes to testing new formats, but playing around with new cards and decks is still a fun thing to do.

The one deck I’ve spend the most time playing so far is the one I’ve decided to write about today, Lapras. I’ve always been a big fan of Expanded Darkrai, and this deck feels similar. Playing a ton of Basic Energy and flooding the board with them through the use of items just never gets old for me.

Why is Lapras making a comeback?

There’s been a lot of talk about Lapras recently, even though it gained only a single card out of Forbidden Light: Volcanion Prism Star. Is it really that good?

In my opinion, yes. Volcanion is a huge upgrade for the deck. One of the main drawbacks of Lapras has been its inability to consistently hit more than 190 damage in a format dominated by Pokemon with 200 or more HP. Volcanion is a very efficient non-GX attacker that can 2HKO everything while rarely getting OHKOd back, but its attack also does 20 damage to every benched Pokemon, which puts the likes of Zoroark and Lycanroc into KO range for Lapras. This is big deal. Setting up Leles for easy Guzma KOs is also relevant. In addition, Volcanion’s ability can help to get energy in the discard pile for Aqua Patch, which is a nice early game bonus.

The second reason for a possible Lapras resurgence is the changing metagame. The beginning of the Forbidden Light meta has been full of prize races between decks like Buzzwole and Malamar/Ultra Necrozma, games where a consistent and fast deck like Lapras can shine. As Lapras has 8 energy acceleration items at its disposal, hitting a T2 OHKO is quite easy, oftentimes it can also pair that with a Guzma. Sometimes it can even start drawing two prizes in the very first turn. Lapras doesn’t run out of steam easily either, and can usually replace and power up a new attacker every turn.

One of the biggest problems for Lapras has always been Golisopod-GX, a card that OHKOs it for one energy while also being out of range with its 210 HP. Golisopod is still a major problem that Lapras can’t really deal with, but as of now, it has lost a lot of its popularity. It remains to be seen how the meta shapes up in the first Forbidden Light legal tournaments, and I would expect Golisopod to regain at least some of its pre-FLI meta share, but there’s hope for Lapras to at least not face it all the time.

The List

Energy (14)

14 Water Energy

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Lapras is our mainhitter and we want to charge up three fresh ones in almost every game. Playing 4 makes that possible even if one is prized, or gets damaged in the early game. We also want to draw into multiple Lapras quickly to always have good targets for our energy acceleration cards. A full playset of Lapras makes the most sense to me.

Octillery is the perfect support Pokemon in an aggressive deck that has Brooklet Hill, so just like in Buzzroc, we want the 2-2 line of it. Getting out the first Octillery is of top priority in the early game, and the second one will often follow towards the end of the game. The one Lele also fulfills the same purpose as in Buzzroc, you don’t really want to use it, but it still turns all the Ultra Balls into potential Supporter outs, which is very important.

Manaphy is mostly a “nice to have” in this list, as I already play a bunch of Float Stones. However, Lapras will usually be equipped with a Choice Band, and being able to retreat it for free is great. I would never cut Manaphy, but also see no need for a second one. Dawn Wings Necrozma could be an alternative, as it also resets Lapras’ Blizzard Burn, but Manaphy is more consistent because of not being disrupted by Blowers and being searchable by Brooklet Hill. By the time it becomes relevant there’s rarely not a second fully powered attacker ready to go, so the Blizzard Burn drawback isn’t a real problem.

Sycamore and Guzma are obvious 4 ofs and there’s no reason to go lower on them. Cynthia is the best supplementary draw supporter and can get us out of awkward hands we don’t want to discard. N isn’t great in here, but a valuable option nonetheless, and still a decent early game draw supporter.

Not much to say about Ultra Ball, Aqua Patch and Max Elixir. Some players may consider going down to 3 of either energy accelerator, but I wouldn’t advise doing so. Drawing into them reliably and as fast as possible is the point of this deck. These cards are almost never a bad draw.

Choice Band is one of the most important cards in the deck as it allows Lapras to take OHKOs. I would go up to 5 or 6 is possible, but 4 have to suffice.

Float Stone can seem like a rather weird inclusion in a deck that has Manaphy for free retreat, but I’m a big fan. It makes the deck much more explosive by taking away the need to attach energy to Pokemon that we don’t want to attack with. Without Float Stone, the odds for a T1 KO are incredibly low, Float Stone however makes that a real possibility, while almost guaranteeing the T2 attack. Against other aggressive decks like Buzzwole or the mirror, every energy attachment can make the difference. Some lists play Energy Switch to address this energy efficiency issue, but in my mind it’s just a slower and much more inconsistent Float Stone.

The one other item I’ve seen in other lists that’s missing here is Field Blower. Just like in Buzzroc, I don’t see much of a point in playing that card in this deck. Lapras doesn’t care about discarding random tools, most games are races where the opponent needs to stop us, not the other way around. Garbotoxin is annoying, but if we removed their tools and made good use of Octillery, that’s just running straight into Trashalance OHKOs. Not being able to use Manaphy is not a huge problem as we have Float Stones.

As for the rest of the list, Brooklet Hill is the obvious stadium of choice. It adds a lot of consistency while also countering Parallel City. They can clunk up the hand though, especially in a format with so many of them already around, so 3 is a fine number.

14 Energy is a lot, but they’re such an important part of the strategy that I’d add as many as possible. Even 15 or more don’t sound crazy to me, but this amount has been completely fine.

Matchups

As a disclaimer, I haven’t done any “serious” testing in this format yet, as there’s still a lot of meta defining tournaments that will take place before Sheffield, that will have to be taken into consideration. As a results, all my opinions are based on my impressions of PTCGO ladder games.
So far, Lapras has been holding up very well against the most expected archetypes.

I’ve won almost all my games against Malamar variants, as those seem to have a lot of trouble in keeping up the OHKO race, as well as usually being behind on prizes. Hitting an Ultra Necrozma with a Metal Energy every turn is hard, especially when most lists are only playing two. Dawn Wings Necrozma’s GX attack is a way for them to get back into the game, but is rarely a problem because of Guzma and Volcanion’s ability.

Buzzwole decks have been harder to beat, but didn’t feel unfavorable. Lycanroc can be problematic because we don’t want to use Volcanion against Buzzwoles, but rarely draws more than two prizes anyway. The matchup is a prize race, but Lapras is faster than Buzzwole, so I’d say we’re fine, even though they have ways to swing the game into their favor.

It remains to be seen how Zoroark will hold up in this meta, but I’d expect at least Zoroark Garbodor to remain a very important deck. The matchup against that feels slightly unfavorable, as both Garbodor are pretty strong against the Lapras deck. As long as we don’t draw awkwardly it’s still very possible to win though. Volcanion is as amazing as against any other Zoroark deck, and creates favorable prize exchanges for most of the game. It’s very important to pay attention to item usage to not get OHKOd by a Trashalance too early, but if we can do that successfully the matchup is fine.

Aside from Golisopod, Gardevoir is one of the biggest problems. At 230 HP it’s impossible to OHKO, but can take out our Pokemon quite easily. Luckily, I don’t think it will see much popularity in a Buzzwole dominated format.

I haven’t played against a lot of other different decks, but Lapras’ chances against the field seemed alright. VikaBulu is a battle of back and forth OHKOs, but our deck is more likely to get ahead in prizes. Metal decks focused on Dusk Mane Necrozma are even more likely to fall behind.

Video

If you want to check out some gameplay action with the deck, take a look at this video that Nico uploaded to the Limitless youtube channel!

Conclusion

To answer the article’s title, yes! In fact, if I was going to play a tournament this weekend, it would be my deck of choice. Granted that may just be caused by lack of proper preparation, but I definitely think it’s a solid deck that could establish itself in the meta if we see a decline in Golisopod play.

Thanks for reading, I hope you liked this quick deck review. I might be back next month with another longer article, so see you there!

25 Responses

    1. Robin Schulz

      I don’t think the card is very good, even in this deck the condition can’t always be satisfied which risks it being a dead card. As all the counts in this list are pretty high, plain draw supporters in combination with Octillery should usually be able to get us what we want, even without explicitly searching for it.

  1. Denis

    Very interesting idea I will surely try it out in the near future. Maybe including 2 Kukui would be helpful against Golisopod and Zoroark decks.

    1. Robin Schulz

      I’ve considered adding a Kukui or two for the Buzzwole/Lycanroc matchup, where setting up the Lycanroc KO with Volcanion can be too slow, but think the matchup and deck are already fine without it. Kukui can be very useless a lot of times compared to other supporters, but could still be a decent option.

    1. Robin Schulz

      I can definitely see it being useful, but Brooklet Hill is way too important, and Po Town can simply be Field Blower’d or kicked before doing anything. I think Volcanion is enough for setting up KOs against evolution decks.

  2. Archie

    I know its not a big worry for this meta, but say you run into something (Dusk Mane for example) playing Fighting Fury Belts. How do you go around it if you don’t play Field Blower?

    1. Robin Schulz

      You can still Guzma around them, or 2hko with a Ice Beam and hope they don’t draw everything they need. If our start is good enough, losing one turn to a Fury Belt is not going to cost us the game. A friend won the 100 person side event League Cup in Tours yesterday, facing Malamar/Ultra Necrozma with Fury Belts in the finals. He said it was annoying to deal with, but still won the match.
      However, If Fury Belt became big in the meta again, I would indeed try to make space for Field Blowers.

  3. Christian Fontenot

    love the deck. have been playing lapres a lot befor FLI and got secend at a 40 person cup with it. only lost to goligarb in round 4 and finels. keep up the good worke robin. 😀

  4. Julius Krag

    Does the deck have a rough time against parallel City beacause Volcanion prism
    Cant do bench damage to Zoroarks

    1. Robin Schulz

      That should not be a big concern as we can kick the Parallel with Brooklet Hill in important turns. Also Zoroark doesn’t want to limit its own bench to 3 for most of the game. If however Parallel becomes a problem, adding a Field Blower or a 4th Brooklet will be a logical answer.

    1. Robin Schulz

      It’s surely a harder matchup than Ultra Necrozma, with them being more consistent and needing one less Energy/Choice Band for the KO, but Lapras can still keep up the prize race just as well. I haven’t played the matchup much, but don’t see it being worse than even.

    1. Robin Schulz

      Would be a reasonable inclusion, there can be games where it’s useful, but I don’t value it highly. We usually OHKO, so having to finish something on the bench should not be a regular occurrence.

  5. Daniel Silva

    What do you think about a Silvally-Lapras deck? You can get rid of the fragile manaphy EX. Besides volcanion prism star, I am also fond of adding tapu koko promo in this build taking advantage of the DCEs

    1. Robin Schulz

      I don’t think Silvally would add much to the deck. Lapras and all the energy acceleration don’t interact well with DCEs at all. It would either have to be a very small Silvally line, in which case Manaphy does the job much more efficiently, or a dedicated Silvally deck with some Water attackers in it, but there are probably better types for a deck like that.

  6. I’ve been playing a Lapras deck similar to yours. I moved from Oranguru, Palkia and Wishiwashi to match your line up and consistency improved greatly. I did keep the Sycamore and Guzma counts to 3 each and Kept in a pair of Skyla and it’s working very well. Thanks for the great article.

  7. seth

    I like the list but it it can struggle against attacking hoopa. I was able to steal a match by using volcanion to spread around some damage and then knock out the weakest hoopa with Octillery at the end! What do you think about White Kyruem as a non-gx alternate attacker?

    1. Robin Schulz

      I don’t think Hoopa should be much of a concern right now so teching for it seems unneeded. In other matchups we don’t need more than 1 non gx attacker and Volcanion is the clear best.

  8. Thomas Valencia

    You inspire me Robin! i’m have been playing a very similar deck at my local league and i have decent results, the matchup against Buzzwole it’s surprisingly favorable and the volcanion its just amazing, so versatile and give you the change to reach numbers with the lapras.. my only issue is manaphy, i love it, but its 2 free prices, so i decided to tech in 2 FFB and the deck improove strongly, my biggest issue today are malamar/necrozma, but the DW necrozma doens’t kill my manaphy anymore. Keep up the good work! thanks a lot!

  9. Tyler Tulo

    Would love to know your idea start and sequence of events on setting up. Relatively new playing the deck and don’t know when to best utilize Volcanion.

  10. Tyler

    How would you play the first couple hands? I’m new to the deck w volcanion and don’t know how to best utilized him.

    1. Robin Schulz

      I almost always go for Lapras early, and only set up Volcanion first when playing against Zoroark. Sometimes you get into situations where you need that non-GX hitter against other decks as well, but most games are just a bunch of Blizzard Burns in a row.

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